| October 1999
Interrogation: Some Keys to Success
by John E. Hess Interrogation, the formal interview
of a subject, is one of the most important skills of an investigator. It is a
skill learned through the conduct of a great many interviews and the patient and
continuing observation of human nature. The wise investigator knows that the development
of interview skills is a life-long process. Every interview conducted, every book
read on the subject, and every conversation with another investigator is an opportunity
to learn these skills. The purpose of this article is simply to furnish a few
strategies and techniques for your consideration. "Hey Joe, got
your yearly letter from that creep I see," growled Al as he sorted through
the stack of incoming papers in their mutual mailbox. Joe and Al had been assigned
to the homicide squad for over twelve years, and although their methods differed,
each had put his share of killers in jail during that time. Joe glanced
at the letter Al had tossed to him, opened it and began reading: October
14 Dear Joe, It's been just over five years
now, and I just wanted to let you know I still haven't forgotten what you did
for me. If it hadn't been for you... "You know, Joe,"
interrupted Al, "I'll never figure that one out. We had nothing on that guy.
There wasn't a shred of evidence that he had killed that girl. God knows I tried
to find some; I beat the bushes for months for nothing--no witnesses, no forensics,
nothing. He knew it too because when I realized we had nothing to lose, I took
a shot. I tried to convince him that we had enough to hang him. He just laughed
and told me to go ahead and try it." "Then you come along and
shoot the breeze with him--and he spills his guts even though you didn't have
a damn thing to offer him. If I live to be a hundred, I'll never understand." Joe
resumed his reading: ...I would have remained a prisoner, just like
you said. Not behind a wall, but in my own mind, and that would have been far
worse. Deep down, I knew it all the time, but you were the one who helped me admit
it. Nobody else understood or cared. Thanks for setting me free. Come see me sometime
if you get a chance. I'll be here. Billy G., State Prison This
letter--although apocryphal--illustrates an often disregarded point--that without
using illegal or unethical practices, some investigators can and often do solve
cases even when no witnesses or evidence exists. The following excerpt touches
on just a few of the principles and techniques that unlike the bewildered detective
above, successful interrogators understand and apply. PERSUASION
--We don't buy things from people we don't trust.--
Many interrogation instructors receive inquiries regarding the
latest developments and most innovative techniques in their field. They often
respond by suggesting that nothing has yet replaced persuasion as the most effective
method for obtaining confessions. By persuasion they mean establishing credibility
and then providing logical and/or emotional reasons for the person to behave in
a certain way. The originator of this idea, Aristotle, died in 322 BC. Although
it sounds simple, applying it involves an infinite number of variables that interrogators
must consider. They must have an understanding of human nature and use it to:
- Select the optimum time and location;
- set the scene appropriately;
- choose
the proper approach; and
- maintain enough flexibility to adapt and change when
it becomes apparent that their original ideas are not working.
The ability
to consistently meet these challenges defines the true professional who understands
all of the following topics and many others. ARGUMENT SELECTION
Whether trying to convince a customer to buy a product or a suspect
to tell the truth, the chance of success increases with the appropriateness of
the sales pitch. Many lost sales result from trying to use the same pitch with
every customer--and interrogators lose many confessions using the same approach
with every suspect. The following is a sample of a vastly overused, generic sales
pitch: You know, what you are doing here is really stupid. If you
think sitting here telling me you didn't do it is going to make it so, you're
just being foolish. We've already got enough to arrest you, and it's only a matter
of time until we'll have enough evidence to put you away for years. Right
now you got a chance to help yourself. Once we have all the pieces put together--and
that won't be long--it will be too late for you. As the guy who sells oil filters
says, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later." The difference
will be in how much it costs. I suggest you tell us now while you can still do
yourself some good. Pay us now before the cost goes up. This
"oil filter" sales pitch, "You can pay me now or pay me later,"
although it has nearly universal application no matter what the crime, often does
not produce an admission of guilt. Unfortunately, many interrogations begin and
end with this theme. If it does not succeed, the interrogators fail because they
know no other approach. Good interrogators usually will begin with an argument
more tailored to the specific suspect and crime. Doing so increases the chance
of success. The ability to select the proper argument often distinguishes
successful interrogators from the rest. Usually, they attribute this ability to
intuition--the old "gut reaction." They therefore cannot help others
who try to emulate them. What they regard as intuition is often the subconscious
processing of information received from various sources such as records, case
files and interviews. Most suspects who refuse to confess do so because
they fear that something bad will happen. Recognizing the specific fear often
enables an interrogator to present a theme aimed at reducing this inhibition.
The variety of fears defies description. Suspects may fear such things as: losing
their jobs, going to jail, embarrassing themselves or their families, losing their
loot, looking like a rat, or receiving a death penalty. Interrogators should identify
the suspect's fears--successful interrogators do. Poor:
Quit worrying about it. Better: It will be okay. Best: We'll take care
of it. Many investigators have experienced frustration
when they try to reduce what their common sense tells them should be the suspect's
main fear. Unfortunately, logic often has little to do with the suspect's thought
process. Interrogators often fail to listen to the suspect and thus fail to discover
his/her real concerns. Although they may hear the suspect's words, they cannot
or will not accept them. This often results in an exchange similar to the following: Inter:
I need to get your side of the story. I think you acted on the spur of the moment.
If you planned this, you could be facing a death sentence. I don't think you deserve
that, but I need your help to establish that. Suspect: I don't want to
go to jail tonight for something I didn't do. Inter: I don't
want to put you in the gas chamber for something you didn't plan. Suspect:
If I say I did it, are you going to put me in jail tonight? Inter:
I can't say; that's beyond my control, but I do know that manslaughter or even
second degree murder beats the hell out of walking that last mile. Suspect:
I know I waived my right to an attorney, and I meant it. However, if I say I want
an attorney, can I stay here till he comes rather than being put in a cell? Inter:
No, you cannot, and I can't promise what an attorney will do. However, I do know
there is nobody on death row who got there without an attorney.
The investigator here has allowed logic, reason, and a normal sense of priorities
to get in the way of hearing what the suspect regards as important. With many
criminals, only the short term or the immediate future matters. Fear of going
to jail that night looms foremost in this suspect's mind. To most people, a night
in jail pales when compared to the death penalty, but this does not matter because
only the suspect counts. Good investigators know this and try to allay the suspects'
fears rather than addressing those that logic would suggest: Inter:
I'm not interested in causing you any extra problems. In fact, I'm willing to
work with you as long as it takes to get this resolved. It's getting late, but
I'm willing to spend all night here if that's what it takes. There is no way we
can finish this up before morning gets here. I can certainly say that getting
the whole truth regarding this matter will keep you from being put in a cell tonight.
It is very important that we get the whole truth, don't you think? Suspect:
You're right, and I didn't plan it, and I didn't mean to kill him. He made me
so damn mad that without thinking, I grabbed the poker from the fireplace and
hit him with it. The suspect has now begun to focus on the initial
appeal and to see the logic of accepting it. However, this occurred only after
the interrogator put the fear of immediate lockup to rest. Interrogators must
not allow their own value systems to cloud their understanding of a suspect. If
they do, they will usually fail. A bank teller suspected of significant
embezzlements confessed to an interrogator who offered to take care of her cat.
An arsonist confessed when assured that his crime would not be a front page story.
A burglar confessed when assured he would not have to wear prison clothes before
being sentenced. A juvenile admitted to murder when told that the investigator
would explain things to his parents. None of these would have occurred if the
interrogators had insisted on using the generic sales pitch, "Pay me now
or pay me later." Parents stress the need to live by the golden rule,
"Do unto others...," and in theory, it has merit. However, when it comes
to motivating others, the golden rule succeeds only when the "doer"
and the "doee" want the same treatment. Usually the value systems of
law enforcement officers vary significantly from that of the average suspect.
Appealing to values that are important to themselves rather than to the suspect
prevents many interrogators from obtaining confessions. --A
bartender cannot just stock his favorite brand.-- To
illustrate why this happens, you only need look at how law enforcement personnel's
perceptions differ from those of the criminal element. Many instruments developed
to measure personality traits, value systems, communication styles and other facets
of human nature illustrate these differences. Although each instrument has its
own nuances, most have many aspects in common. One such instrument developed
by psychologists, David Keirsey and Marilyn Bates, categorizes people into four
temperaments, two of which equally divide 76 percent of the population. Amazingly
however, based on results provided by many groups of police officers and FBI agents,
more than 80 percent of them fall into one category. Keirsey and Bates have termed
those of this temperament, "guardians," people who value stability and
tradition. A sense of duty and a need to serve motivate this group. These characteristics
seem to cause many of them to select and remain in law enforcement. These "guardians"
also rely on this set of values when attempting to influence the behavior of others: Joe,
there's no doubt that you were involved in ripping off the insurance company,
and you're going to have to face the consequences for your actions. However, you
didn't do it by yourself, and we need to know who the others were. I've
checked your background and I know you were raised in an environment that taught
you right from wrong. I also know that you spent a couple of years in the military
and got an honorable discharge. Based on this, it should be easy for you to see
why we need to get the truth. Unless rules are followed, our society would break
down and things would be in chaos. Each of us has a duty to see that this does
not happen. Right now you're thinking in terms of not being
a rat regarding your friends. Let me tell you a few things: first, they are not
your friends to get you in a fix like this. You don't owe them a thing. Second,
you have a duty to do your part to keep this society together. You need to face
this like a man and do the right thing as you were raised and trained to do. To
most law enforcement personnel, this argument makes complete sense. Everybody
has a duty to do whatever possible to make the world a better place. They learned
this at home and had it re-enforced by various social institutions such as the
church, school, scouts, and the military. Thus, an interrogator might think: "How
can anybody not see this? Everybody knows this. I'm merely verbalizing the obvious
so the suspect will find it easy to agree." Unfortunately, the above
assumptions do not have universal application. Although everybody may understand
the words being spoken, to much of the population, this appeal to duty falls on
unreceptive--if not deaf--ears. It often produces a response such as: I
don't have any idea what you're talking about. Besides, I don't owe anybody a
damn thing. What has society ever done for me? When this happens and
no confession results, the typical officer reverts to the oil filter theme, pay
me now or pay me later. If this fails, the interrogator often quits. The
urge to persuade or motivate others by using our own value systems has great appeal.
We have difficulty grasping the idea that something so important to us would have
so little effect on somebody else. Instead, if unsuccessful, we often assume that
they must not have heard or understood us. We therefore repeat ourselves, usually
at a higher volume. Not recognizing that other value systems dominate the world
in general and the criminal world in particular has caused many interrogators
to fail. --Regardless of your values,
they represent a minority.-- Just as guardians
make up 38 percent of the general population but dominate law enforcement, another
group, known to Keirsey and Bates as Artisans, also make up 38 percent of the
general population and seem to dominate the criminal element. They do so because
their temperament inclines them to do things just for the joy of doing them. Although
any profession may attract someone of this temperament, most of these people gravitate
to professions that provide opportunity for freedom and spontaneity. What profession
can offer more freedom than one that requires no adherence to any rules? Most
criminals choose their way of life because of the freedom and thrills that such
a life provides. The interrogator must use something besides duty and honor to
appeal to these people: Sure you were involved in ripping off the
insurance company; that's not the question. You're going to be convicted and sentenced,
and you're going to do your time. The question is, how are you going to do that
time? I'm not offering you any deal such as a shorter sentence or better conditions,
but I will give you a chance to do more than just sit on your behind for your
entire jail term. As you probably know, the prison where you
would go if you plead has lots of problems, both with the inmates and the staff.
I could use a source inside to give me some information, and you would be good
at it if you wanted to be. It wouldn't be easy however. You would have to sell
yourself to a bunch of dangerous men who wouldn't hesitate to kill you. It sure
would be a kick in the ass, though. I could provide you with
a code name, and we can work out how we can pull this off. We'll have to develop
a system so we can communicate. However, I can't do a damn thing until your current
charges are resolved. Why don't you just tell me the whole story, and we can go
from there? Upon hearing the above, many law enforcement officers
would scoff with disbelief. This pitch falls so far outside their value system
that not only would they not accept such an appeal, they cannot fathom anybody
doing so. As a result, given the temperament of most criminals, these officers
will never become effective interrogators. Instead, they will continue to stress
the qualities of common sense, duty and honor. These qualities really do not make
much of an impression on the typical criminal. Offering them something that appeals
to their desire for excitement and adventure has a better chance of success.
SALES PLOYS In his book, Influence, John
Cialdini discusses various techniques used by merchants to trigger acceptance
of their products. He tries to alert his readers to these tactics so they can
avoid buying things they really don't want. Although interrogators sell the idea
of confession rather than a product, they can often use many of the same ploys.
These techniques essentially fit Aristotle's directive that after establishing
credibility, one must provide logical and/or emotional reasons to get people to
act as desired. SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE Humans
have a very strong tendency to attribute acceptability to anything done by enough
people. After all, how could that many people be wrong? This results in advertisements
such as: Of all of the cigarettes on the market today, Ole' Lung
Busters is the number one selling brand. Don't stay on the outside looking in,
join the crowd that's in the know. The above statement will sell
the product because it enables people to rationalize their behavior. Never mind
that irrefutable evidence shows that cigarettes will kill you. Interrogators too
can appeal to this tendency to join the crowd by suggesting: Don't
sit there thinking you're the only one who's done this sort of thing. I've been
in this business a long time, and let me tell you, I see this sort of thing every
day. I'm not saying you're right, but most people in your position would have
done the same thing. --Everyone
likes to hear, "You're not alone."-- Just
as with the cigarettes, it must be all right, everybody is doing it. This approach
can sell cigarettes, confessions, and many other improbable things. People "go
along to get along," from something as silly as having their ears pierced
so they can dangle trinkets from them, to something as tragic as the Jonestown
mass suicide, where over 900 people got in line so they and their children could
drink a cyanide-laced drink. Good interrogators recognize the power of social
acceptance and use it where they can. URGENCY A
real estate dealer trying to close a deal might use the following: I
know you're torn between buying this house and looking at some more. I can understand
that the perfect house might be out there somewhere, and I'm willing to keep going
as long as you wish. On the other hand, I know for a fact that another couple
will be making an offer on this one this afternoon, an offer just a few thousand
dollars below the asking price. I believe the owner will accept it. If you want
this one, you'd better grab it now because it's not likely to be here tomorrow. How
many of us have made purchases based on the premise that if we did not act at
once, we would lose the opportunity? By creating an artificial deadline, often
with no factual basis, merchants speed up and even cause many transactions. Phrases
such as, "limited offer," "while supplies last," and, "sale
ends tomorrow," all serve to push potential customers into a decision. Investigators
can convey this sense of urgency to a vacillating suspect who continues to weigh
the pros and cons of cooperating: As we speak, investigation of this
case is going on two fronts. Technicians from the lab are sifting through piles
of evidence that may give us all the answers we need. At the same time, detectives
are out beating the bushes talking to everyone who might be able to resolve this
case. Once either of these groups hits paydirt, and they will, your usefulness
to us is over, and the prosecutor certainly won't take your cooperation into account.
I'm not making you any promises, but if you have any hope of being cut a little
slack, you better act now. COMMITMENT "Rome
wasn't built in a day." Many merchants know how to apply this old saying.
They recognize that by getting a potential customer to first agree with them on
some point, they can ultimately use this agreement to make a sale. They proceed
one step at a time: You are interested in your daughter's future aren't
you sir? I thought you were, how could you not be? It's because of that interest
that I'm here to talk to you today. In today's high-tech world, old-fashioned
values often get pushed aside. These values make the difference between a totally
materialistic adult and one who has her priorities in order. As you said, you
are interested in her future and that's why I want to show you our collection
of classic literature, literature that can help promote the values you say you
want for your child. Believe it or not, this seemingly blatant sales
ploy succeeds with some regularity. It does so because the vendor manipulates
the customer into proclaiming an interest in the child's future. Once proclaimed,
the customer feels obligated to concur with everything said by the seller that
appears to support this interest. The seller need not get total compliance at
once: "Do, you want to buy some classic literature?" would not sell
many books. Instead, a minor non threatening commitment regarding a child's value
system serves as the starting point for a final agreement to purchase the product.
--Because I said it, it must be true.--
Interrogators too can sometimes use this principle. By obtaining
a minor admission and using that as a starting point, they can ultimately arrive
at the truth. They might proceed as follows: Your story just doesn't
make sense. For you to sit there and deny that you were at the scene where this
woman says you raped her will never hold up; it's stupid. It can be verified that
you were there and not at home watching TV as you claim. There
are always two sides to every story, mitigating circumstances that make a difference
regarding who is at fault. However, as long as you deny being present, none of
these can be discovered. Unless shown otherwise, human nature has a tendency to
think the worst of each other. Don't let them think the worst of you; quit being
stupid; take this opportunity to give your side of the story. You were there weren't
you? The interrogator does not try to achieve a confession at this
point but merely wants the suspect to concede some point that he would not admit
before. He wants the suspect to admit only that he was at the scene of the crime,
something he initially denied. Once obtained, the interrogator can use this
concession to continue in a step-by-step process to get additional admissions.
At best it may result in a complete confession. At least, it has put the suspect
in the vicinity of the crime. This may suffice to convict the culprit when viewed
with the other case facts. The interrogator's initial willingness to accept less
than a total confession can often achieve the ultimate goal, the truth.
GRATITUDE Most people who receive favors feel
indebted to those who grant them, and feel compelled to respond in kind. Typically
this response will far exceed the magnitude of the original favor. This may hold
true even when the recipient neither requested nor wanted the initial favor. A
few years ago a religious cult assigned its members to airport duty. They would
accost people with the statement, "This is my gift to you," while presenting
the traveler with a wilted, often mutilated flower. The recipients in turn would
often donate money to them. Observation showed what the recipients thought
of these flowers. Once out of sight of the cult member, they would throw them
in the nearest trash can. An accomplice of the cult member would also observe
this and would retrieve the flowers for reuse as gifts to future victims. Even
gracious acceptance of a refusal can fit the category of a favor. Not making people
feel guilty about declining to do something requested of them makes them feel
grateful. They are more apt to grant the next request made of them. A phone call
to me from a solicitor for a worthy charity will illustrate this ploy: Sir,
as you know, our organization is dedicated to wiping out a dreaded disease, one
that often attacks adult males. The secret to defeating this disease is research.
That costs money--money that must come from donations. We
have determined that the best way to secure these donations is to have esteemed
members of the community like yourself solicit funds from the neighborhood where
they reside. If you would agree to do this for us, you would be doing a real service
for us, for the community and ultimately, for yourself. The solicitor,
in building a seemingly valid case for his cause, used several ploys, each designed
to make it difficult to decline his request. First, he explained the worthiness
of his cause. Second, he personalized the project by portraying me as a prime
benefactor, and third, he appealed to my ego by describing me as an esteemed member
of the community. However, I dread soliciting from door to door, so I offered
some lame excuse and declined, fully expecting the solicitor to make me feel guilty
for my refusal and then to apply pressure to get me to change my mind. Nothing
could have been further from the truth: Don't give it a second thought
sir. I understand completely. Some of us have commitments that preclude us getting
involved in such time-consuming activities. Others have personalities that make
door to door soliciting an ordeal, and I certainly wouldn't want to impose that
burden on anybody. I'm very appreciative that you took the
time to listen to what I had to say. Perhaps you might give some thought to doing
it sometime in the future. By the way, while I have you on the phone, I'm also
soliciting pledges from those people who are interested in helping. How much of
a pledge can I put you down for this year?" The solicitor had
me. Because he so graciously let me off the hook without evoking guilt, I felt
extremely obligated to him. I eagerly leaped at the opportunity to repay him.
I offered a pledge significantly higher than any I normally would have made. In
fact, I owed him nothing. He was a professional solicitor getting paid to raise
money. He had bothered me at home to ask me to do his work for him--work that
I would truly dread. Yet, I felt guilty about declining and wanted to make it
up to him. The interrogator too can use this concept of indebtedness. A
state trooper who worked juvenile matters attributed most of his confessions to
the soft drink industry. After an initial unsuccessful attempt at obtaining a
confession, he would pause and get the suspect a soda. He insisted that more often
than not, this seemingly insignificant gift resulted in a complete change in attitude
and demeanor that ultimately led to a confession. --Put
suspects in your debt, they will often pay up.-- Interrogators
can use less blatant but similar approaches with more sophisticated suspects.
This can include the ploy of graciously relenting from the demand for a confession
to an exaggerated crime: Over the past few months approximately
$40,000 worth of merchandise has been taken from this warehouse, and you're telling
me you didn't do it. You know what? I believe you. There is no way you would have
done that. You're not like that. There are those who want
to blame you for it though, and they have sent me in here to try to get you to
admit that you did. Well, I asked you, and you said you didn't do it. I'm not
going to ask you again because as I said, I believe you. However,
I am stuck with resolving this matter, and I'm pretty sure you can help some.
The $7,000 shipment of tools that got misdirected; that's the only part of this
you had anything to do with wasn't it? Other than that, you didn't have any involvement
with any missing goods did you? This approach does not form the
entire argument as the interrogator would have presented it. The argument may
have had many aspects to it, but with this one appeal, the interrogator earned
the gratitude of the suspect. The interrogator did not berate, contradict, or
even express a doubt about the truthfulness of the suspect's denial. Furthermore,
the interrogator implied a willingness to dispute the allegation with those in
authority. How can the suspect not feel grateful, and how can he repay the obligation?
He could do this by admitting to the lesser and more accurate accusation.
CONCLUSION All investigators should know that
interviewing subjects requires a great number of skills. These skills are not
learned by simply reading a book or listening to a lecture. They are acquired
over a long period of time by individuals who conduct a large number of interviews
and while doing so continue to study human nature, criminal personalities, interviewing
techniques, and the art of listening. It is a career long learning process.
______________________________________________ The preceding
information was extracted from Interviewing and Interrogation for Law Enforcement,
a book written by John E. Hess and published by Anderson Publishing of Cincinnati,
Ohio. It can be ordered through the publisher or various Internet vendors. Anderson's
toll free number is 1-800-582-7295 and its Internet address is www.andersonpublishing.com. Mr.
Hess retired from the FBI in 1996 after twenty-seven years of service, the last
twelve of which he spent at the FBI Academy where he developed and taught courses
in interviewing, interrogation, and statement analysis. He currently teaches these
courses as an independent consultant. He can be reached at (540) 371-5126 or e-mailed
at jedgarh@erols.com.
The National Executive Institute Associates Leadership Bulletin editor
is Edward J. Tully. He served with the FBI as a Special Agent from 1962 to 1993.
He is presently the Executive Director of the National Executive Institute Associates
and the Major City Chiefs. You can reach him via e-mail at tullye@aol.com or by
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